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That's why Patrick and I started from Long Beach and got an early start.<br>
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Mike<br>
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color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I made the mistake of trying to
solo paddle from Cabrillo Beach to the Queen Mary and back last year.
The mistake I made was that I left too late in morning and hit those
20+ knot winds on the way back. I honestly thought of radioing for help
a couple times as 3/4 of the way back I was completely exhausted! The
only place to rest was on the rocks and my kayak has the scars to
prove it. Never again and especially not alone. On that day, I
definitely did not belong there!</font></span></div>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-bounces@list.ckf.org">info-bounces@list.ckf.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:info-bounces@list.ckf.org">mailto:info-bounces@list.ckf.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Steve Brown<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jack Brisley; Mike Bode; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:houser4@earthlink.net">houser4@earthlink.net</a><br>
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All,<br>
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Just another two cents to add to Jack's comments for those who don't
know: <br>
There is no legal requirement for human power craft to stay on the
right side of the channel. Its desirable, but if wind, current,
traffic, or just being at the outside of the turn make it impractical,
you can move (crisply as Jack said) to the other side. Also, at night,
lights do not have to be on, they just have to be within reach so they
can be turned on to avoid collision.<br>
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"Those who don't know" include the harbor police.<br>
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By the way, the fishing boat that played chicken with us (twice) is the
"Gale Force". If you encounter this boat in a place with no witnesses,
get ready for evasive action.<br>
<br>
Steve Brown
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an addition to what Mike said: the Harbor police are dying to find a
way to conjure a rule prohibiting kayaks in the harbor. They are been
not at all shy about saying we don’t belong there. We do of course and
they cannot as of yet, discriminate against kayaks without also going
after sailboats etc. They have said they intend to make Pier 400 a no
go zone and they may well be able to do because there are no marinas
back there. In addition to what Mike has said, any sort of confusion or
ANY sort of disregard for what they perceive as REAL HARBOR traffic and
they will be all over you. They are very predisposed to find something
out of order with kayakers. Stay way off to the sides of the channels
and when crossing the channel do it very decisively and crisply. The
area between the LA Pilots station, at the end of the main channel and
Angels Gate can be very messy. It’s a 5 way intersection about a mile
wide of channels and marina outlets. High speed power boats mix with
the Catalina ferries which are still going 30 to 40 knots, sail boats,
pilot boats, also high speed, tug boats, container ships, jet skis, on
and on..Timing and discretion here are essential. Any incident here
with a kayak will be seen as the result of the kayak not being where it
“belongs”. And not everyone belongs here. Even though all the
aforementioned, except container ships, have the ability to see and
avoid. They may not. Add to all this the regular Cabrillo wind
screaming at a right angle across the channel in the afternoon with its
3 foot whitecaps, well, you should see this area on a hot summer
weekend. And anyone out of a kayak in the water here and it will most
definitely be a major scene. In this area ya gotta know where the
channel markers are and which channel, out of five intersecting, they
refer to and stay off to the side or outside of the channels unless
crossing. This place is a good urban paddle adventure but there IS MUCH
more to it than meets the eye. Twice recreational sport fishing boats
have intentionally came straight at Steve Brown and turned away at the
last minute with look and glare of you don’t belong here and that
wasn’t even in the main channel. In at least 50% of the paddles in the
harbor, I’ve been visited by either the Coast Guard or the Harbor
Police. If someone wonders if they should be there, they probably don’t
belong there. You’ll have to know what you’re doing and look it. The CG
and harbor police have said that’s what they particularly key on. Any
uncertainty of the rules of the road, seamanship, boat handling and
they will be all over you for not belonging there. I’ve been paddling
in the harbor off and on </span></p>
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10 years and have had many interesting encounters with these guys but
all ending well. The previous is an accumulation of these encounters
for what it is, or isn’t worth.</span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-bounces@list.ckf.org">info-bounces@list.ckf.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:info-bounces@list.ckf.org">mailto:info-bounces@list.ckf.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Mike Bode<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 09, 2008 7:25 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the great aerial view of the route,
Dave! For anybody planning on doing this paddle, be sure to observe
the rules of the road in the harbor. According to the harbor
authorities, the two main rules are 1) Keep moving, and 2) Don't enter
any berths.<br>
<br>
Mike Bode<br>
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The Housers wrote: </p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Thanks,
Mike for posting this. Paddles in and around Los Angeles/Long Beach
Harbors offer some fascinating <br>
sightseeing!<br>
Ann</span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi Paddlers!<br>
<br>
Patrick Martin and I paddled from Long Beach to Cabrillo (and back)
yesterday. Check out pics and trip report: <br>
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Pics at: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Long Beach to Cabrillo Beach, June 1, 08<br>
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Neither Patrick Martin nor I could remember anybody having posted a
trip report about a paddle from Long Beach to Cabrillo Beach. We had
started talking about another “connect-the-dots†paddle and this one
would add another leg to our California coastline resume, which, after
this weekend, now extends roughly from just south of Point Conception
to Alamitos Bay.<br>
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Patrick opined that there was probably good reason why we’d never
heard of anybody doing this particular trip before, and we both had
some trepidation about it. We expected foul, polluted water, the
penetrating odor of oil, exhaust fumes, and guano, and heavy boat
traffic that would make us constantly have to scurry out of the path of
one oil tanker, car carrier, or garbage barge to another in an
energy-sapping exercise of life-or-death escape maneuvers. And the
usual strong westerlies that would come up in the afternoon would
certainly make this a grueling day paddle that we wouldn’t want to
repeat.<br>
<br>
But none of this turned out to be true. Although the South Shore
Launch Ramp where we put in required a little forbearance in terms of
floating trash, water quality, and personal amenities, it served its
purpose. Patrick and I got there around 7:30, despite having gotten
lost on the way a couple of times, paid the $10 parking fee, and, by
8:20 were on our way. We passed the Queen Mary on our way out Long
Beach Harbor and also paused to marvel at the immense cruise ship
moored just next door. <br>
<br>
Our pace was leisurely and we stopped often to look at the sights the
harbor had to offer. We were both particularly intrigued by the flocks
of red, white, and blue California Harbor Cranes all neatly lined up in
rows, noisily feeding on the countless containers that were being moved
in or out of wherever it was that they had to be moved into or out of.
Contrary to our expectations, everything we saw in this industrial
landscape was surprisingly neat, clean, and orderly. The whole
horizon, as we paddled along, seemed to be a huge layout of some giant
child’s brand new Tonka Toys.<br>
<br>
Soon we came in sight of Angels Gate lighthouse and we headed out
toward it. We stopped, took some souvenir pictures of this beautiful,
old structure, and then continued on to Cabrillo Beach where we finally
landed shortly after 11:00am. It had taken us about 2 ¾ hours, which
was not bad considering our many stops to sightsee.<br>
<br>
After a 45-minute break, we got back in our boats and headed back to
Long Beach. We had s ome help from a slight breeze from the west for
most of the way and, just like the leg out, we encountered almost no
harbor traffic at all. It was about a 16 NM paddle, roundtrip, with
all our detours and meanderings, a longish trip for us, since neither
of us has managed yet to get back the good conditioning we had built up
last year.<br>
<br>
After loading up, we adjourned to a local eatery for burgers and
shortly afterward, refreshed and strengthened, got back on the road for
home. We had car pooled, and, since Patrick was driving, I for one had
a very relaxing trip home.<br>
<br>
What a nice surprise this trip was. Though not a “Beginner Paddleâ€
because of the distance, potential winds and harbor traffic, it’s an
entertaining change of pace with lots to see for folks with an eye for
industrial art and an appreciation for the day-to-day workings of one
of the world’s busiest seaports.<br>
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You can put this trip on your calendars!<br>
<br>
Mike Bode< BR><br>
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